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blue collar and older whites. even with paul ryan on the ticket, a 60% of seniors voted for romney. in the long run, i think those red states are problematic for democrats. look at north carolina. in north carolina or virginia, obama's numbers among blue- collar whites are unbelievably low. they are in the high-20's or 30's. in the long run, i do think there is this pattern. the sun belt will be more important than the west about. they do have the incredible ability to hang on to -- the shift will be to states that have the same social forces of rising diversity and rising education levels. >> we have a slight disagreement. obama did well among these groups in 2008. democrats do well among white blue-collar voters in the midwest. there are union presidents and other things that give them a boost. there is a slight fracture of the automobile bailout. ohio did not look that different. i think of no bailout might have helped a bit around the edges. boy, running against and john mccain in 2008, barack obama did well among those groups in those states. he did well in iowa. he overperfor
quick point. one is very interesting role the paul ryan will play from this point on. paul ryan was simultaneously a loser and a winner on tuesday night. a winner because he won his house seat, a loser for the obvious reason but also for a couple of additional ones. it's kind of embarrassing when you put on the ticket and you can't carry your own state. but also his percentage and his own district went down significantly. at the same time there is no question that paul ryan, it was a national figure but far more recognized by those of us in the intellectual world and the cometary and then by others. paul, you go, could've walked through any airport outside of wisconsin or washington in america and might well have gone unnoticed. now obviously he is a significant national figure and include one in the mix for 2016. but he's in the next four that kind of conservative community that has dominated the primary and caucus process before. and going along with these kinds of compromises that include tax increases as part of a package, he comes a little trickier for him. and it also beco
interesting role the paul ryan will play from this point on. paul ryan was simultaneously a loser and a winner on tuesday night. a winner because he won his house seat, a loser for the obvious reason but also for a couple of good additional ones. it's kind of embarrassing when you're put on a ticket and you cannot carry your own state and also his percentage in his own district went down significantly. at the same time there is no question that paul ryan who was a national figure who was far more recognized by those of us in the intellectual world than by others. paul a year ago could have walked through any airport outside of wisconsin or washington in america and might well have gone unnoticed other than maybe by one or two people and now obviously he is an enormously significant figure in clearly won in the mix for 2016. he is in the mix for that kind of conservative community that is dominating the primary and caucus process before and going along with these kinds of compromises that include tax increases as part of the package comes a little trickier for him and it also becomes trickier f
, but we will not come with fixed positions. it was the paul ryan budget that said essentially privatize social security and use a voucher for medicare. i do not think the public wants that. in their reelection, they said let's tackle these issues but not in a punitive way. host: the next call for sander levin comes from alexandria, virginia. independent. caller: i just want to share with you and congressman that i think we are having the wrong conversation about taxes. we keep talking about the reduction in rates, tax rates, but as a percentage of gdp, we are paying less than just about everyone else in the industrialized world except for mexico, chile and turkey. we cannot sustain this and try to grow, increase in the structure, research and development, improve our education system -- it is just not a reality. turkey, chile and mexico. that is who we are competing with as a percentage of gdp. we all need to pay more so we can get more from it. host: what would it look like for you personally? what would you be willing to pay? caller: thank you. i would be willing to pay another 10% or
made a difference. [applause] i just spoke with governor romney, and i congratulated him and paul ryan on a hard-fought campaign. [applause] we may have battled fiercely, but it's only because we love this country deeply, and we care so strongly about its future. from george to lenore to their son mitt, the romney family has chosen to give back to america through public service, and that is a legacy that we honor and applaud tonight. [applause] in the weeks ahead, i also look forward to sitting down with governor romney to talk about where we can work together to move this country forward. [applause] i want to thank my friend and partner of the last four years, america's happy warrior -- [applause] the best vice president anybody could ever hope for -- joe biden. [applause] and i wouldn't be the man i am today without the woman who agreed to marry me 20 years ago. [applause] let me say this publicly -- michelle, i have never loved you more. i have never been prouder to watch the rest of america fall in love with you, too, as our nation's first lady. [applause] sasha and malia, before o
andrew cuomo. the republicans have their own starting lineup. paul ryan, who played the role of understudy in this campaign, new jersey governor chris christie, even though some conservative republicans blame him for his high-octane embrace of president obama. florida senator marco rubio on a fak fast track who say he's the republican solution to the problem with hispanics. >> if i'm a serious policymaker, i'll have a lot of opportunities to do different things in politics, outside of politics. >> and there are some party leaders who are still long for former florida governor jeb bush. you can argue that it is too early to even be thinking about 2016, but ask yourself, when did barack obama first start dreaming about becoming president? craig. >> andrea mitchell, thanks to you for some smart speculation. now let's bring in the brain trust. joan walsh, editor at large for salon.com. also an msnbc political analyst. perry bacon, the editor for "the g rir grio." this is a limit brain trust. sometimes we have to fake it. not today. let's pick up the here. let's start with where a
that paul ryan, who was a national figure but far more recognized by those of us in the intellectual world and the common period and by others he could have walked through any airport outside of wisconsin in america and might well have gone unnoticed by one or two people. now obviously he is a significant national figure and clearly one in the mix for 2016. but he is in the mix for that kind of conservative community that is dominated let primary caucus process before. going along with these compromises that include tax increases as part of a package becomes a little tricky for him and also becomes tricky for john boehner because now you have with the young guns one of them is an even more than the enormous national figure. finally, let me say the next few weeks are not just about the fiscal cliff. we have a farm bill waiting for action. a farm bill that passed with 74 votes and this is an interesting template as we talk about the fiscal cliff. in the senate model of bipartisanship even in the midst of the greatest drought since the great depression, the house didn't act. whether they can
, that paul ryan look like one of mitrani's kids? right? didn't convey a sense of diversity. republicans are knee-jerk inherently opposed to diversity. that is actually the case. that's kind of one of the republicans, platform. it's not platform but republicans have a knee-jerk reaction to the. those multicultural imposing diversity on this? no way. i think the party, it needs a different look, doesn't? different spokesman, different people out there. so you're right, cubans and mexican-americans and puerto ricans. but i think they need to present a different look. >> sarah palin? in the back. >> good morning. eric schultz, among the political phenomenons that intrigues me the most i think ticket splitting seems to interest me a lot but i wanted to get sure thoughts on that. just looking at some of the results, montana elected a democratic governor, democratic senator, and the president only got 42%. in missouri, nixon and mccaskill, both democrats got 55%. yet obama topped out at 44 and lost every county except jefferson and st. louis and st. louis city. in west virginia, they elected h
, paul ryan will have to get a waiver from his house caucus colleagues to stay on his budget chair. i'm betting that that happens because he is still, i think, a rising star in the party. but he has that little thing that he's got to go through, which is to get a vote in the caucus before he can continue. >> mark. >> the other big element which is out there, not a january 1st thing but early 2013 thing is raising the debt ceiling. and remember, for the house republicans, that was a big bargaining chip. >> right. >> and a big element. we don't know the exact date. but when people talk about a deal, that's one thing you've got to factor in, will house republicans be willing to give an extension to deal with tax reform and other things if no one thinks can be dealt with in the lame duck or early next year and get something in return for agreeing to raise the debt ceiling. i'm ready to admit the first thing i've already been wrong about, the president said the fever will break and a deal will come into place more easily. still difficult but more easily than has happened so far. i was skep
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